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Homosexuality vs Old Testament Authority and Interpretation

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The interpreter’s attitude toward the authority of Scripture is especially significant as we approach the Old Testament . Homosexual Revisionist interpreters tend to dilute Old Testament authority, especially in its references to homosexuality.  For example, Boswell ’s attitude appears in his statement, “Most Christians regarded the Old Testament as an elaborate metaphor for Christian revelation; extremely few considered it morally binding in particular details.” Boswell believes that the nonbinding details include both the dietary laws and any prohibitions of homosexual behavior . The basis for such claims is that the ancient world, especially Roman citizens , “knew no such hostility to homosexuality,” hence, non-Jewish converts to Christianity could hold no such views. Boswell believes that Old Testament strictures against homosexuality would appear to be arbitrary to Roman citizens. They would not consider them to be different from the prohibition against cutting t...

Uniting Church heretic performs immoral homosexual marriage

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Uniting Church in Australia (Photo credit: Wikipedia ) Mr Munson is a Minister a long-term advocate for marriage equality  and chose to marry homosexual couples in ACT recently before the legislation was thrown out by the High Court. Munson works with the Uniting Church as a locum and justified his actions in an ABC article. We will kindly address his justification to see if it is supported by scripture.   LOOK AT MUNSON'S LOGIC 1. " Being gay or lesbian, bi, whatever, is just who we are," he said. "It is not something people choose to do, it is just who we are. Response : This is the 'born gay' argument or the 'gay gene' argument supported by Lady Gaga but not the Bible. The Bible does state we are ALL born in sin and this would include homosexuals, bi, or lesbians. The Bible also calls everybody to repent of sin and come to Christ. The Bible does not call us to celebrate our sin but repent of our sin. Homosexuality and lesbianism is listed cl...

Labor MP wants marry bloke in ACT at midnight just to send a message: "I disregard the law of the land"

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Nine Labor and Green Politicians are being allowed to change the definition of marriage for the rest of the nation? Outrageous!  A West Australian Labor MP plans to be among the first to marry his homosexual partner when homosexual marriage becomes legal in the Australian Capital Territory tomorrow. The MLC Stephen Dawson intends to marry his partner of 10 years, Dennis, in a small ceremony in the ACT at one minute past midnight. The new immoral laws being forced on Australia by nine politicians (Labor and Greens) allowing homosexuals to marry will be short-lived as they face a huge challenge in the High Court . The huge challenges is that these immoral relationships will not be recognized in different states on a whole range of issues, including financial, welfare, inheritance, death and other issues that only federal marriages can claim. Mr Dawson wants to sends a message to the community. In effect, he is saying, whether you like it or not we will force ho...

Kevin Rudd challenges God, Apostle Paul and a local pastor on the sin of homosexuality

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Kevin Rudd, 26th Prime Minister of Australia. (Photo credit: Wikipedia ) Kevin Rudd  challenged the biblical integrity of a Christian pastor who questioned Rudd's "Christian conscience position" on homosexual marriage on Q&A . Rudd in effect is stating that Jesus, God the Father , the Apostle Paul and a local Brisbane pastor are all wrong on the sin of homosexuality. Kevin Rudd is more in line with Lady Gaga than the Bible The Brisbane based pastor from New Hope Church asked the Prime Minister how he could support gay marriage "if you call yourself a Christian". The Prime Minister responded by using the Metropolitan Homosexual Community Church (MCC) (Freedom2B Syndey Homosexual group) argument that the Bible presents slavery an acceptable practice.  "Well, mate if I was going to have that view, the Bible also says that slavery is a natural condition," Mr Rudd responded. The pastor asked Mr Rudd: " Jesus said a man shall leave hi...

Kevin Rudd biblical understanding is wrong on homosexual marriage

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English: Kevin Rudd, 26th Prime Minister of Australia. (Photo credit: Wikipedia ) In an extraordinary moment on TV , Kevin Rudd gave a staunch, invalid, unbiblical and unscientific defence of same-sex marriage when challenged by a Pastor on Q & A. When confronted by a question from New Hope Church pastor Matt Prater , who quoted the Bible as stating it was clearly wrong in the eyes of God , he said: "People don't choose their sexuality, they are born that way. The idea this is somehow an abnormal condition is wrong." The biblical truth is that EVERYBODY is born as sinners. We are all born that way. To say that is good is to deny sin and the purpose of Christ and the Cross. When the fall into sin occurred every human fell from their righteousness and communion with God, and so became dead in sin, and wholly defiled in all parts and faculties of soul and body. ADam's guilt and sin has been imputed to all as reinforced in Romans and 1 Corinthians. Mr Ru...

Politician twists scripture on homosexuality then bullies Pastor

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TWISTING SCRIPTURE Romans 1:26–27 The Prime Minister of Australia beleives he is quoting scripture but is actually quoting cult homosexual churches. The Metropolitan Community Church ( MCC ), founded by Troy Perry , was the first denomination started for homosexuals. After studying the Bible, Perry concluded that Christianity and homosexuality were compatible. Freedome2b.org are doing the same thing. Yet these verses clearly show that homosexuality is not “natural” but instead is “unnatural” and “shameless.” Paul wrote in 1 Co 6:9 that practicing homosexuals, along with sexually immoral people, idolaters, adulterers, male prostitutes, thieves, greedy people, drunkards, revilers, or swindlers will not enter the kingdom of God. Paul went on to say, “Some of you were like this; but you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God ” (1 Co 6:11). Cabal, T., Brand, C. O., Clendenen, E. R., Copan , P., Moreland,...

King David and Jonathon were not homosexual

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"David and Jonathan," by Rembrandt. Jonathan is the figure in the turban. Hermitage News (Photo credit: Wikipedia ) David’s Lament for Saul and Jonathan (1:17–27) IN THE EVENT that any reader could conceivably doubt David’s sincerity in mourning for Saul and Jonathan, the text now moves to an elegy in which David’s deepest emotional responses are expressed lyrically. Old Testament tradition assumes that David was a man especially gifted in music and song (1 Sam. 16:18, 23; 18:10; 2 Sam. 23:1; Amos 6:5; often in the Psalms, where seventy-two individual psalms are associated with his name).  Many have noted that at various levels this poem implies that David himself is the composer, and the burden of proof lies with anyone denying this assertion. The poetry has a lofty quality; “only a rare spirit deeply moved by an event of great moment is likely to have produced a little masterpiece like this.”10 In one of the most emotional and moving scenes of the Bible, David...

The Bible supports loving Homosexual relationships but not homosexual paedophilia?

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The error of Freedom2b.org and Metropolitan Community Church is their theology is not complete. They choose to ignore verses that condemn homosexuality, or apply the meaning of one verse namely, 1 Co 6:9 to all forms of homosexuality and then infer none of these verses apply to loving homosexual relationships. The Bible speaks clearly of false prophets and teachers, of ehich both organizations fulfill this criteria.  ἀρσενοκοίτης (arsenokoitēs), ου (ou), ὁ (ho): n.masc.; ≡ Str 733—LN 88.280 male homosexual, one who takes the active male role in homosexual intercourse (1Co 6:9), specifically interpreted as male homosexual paedophilia (NAB footnote); possibly a more generic term in first Timothy; sodomites ( RSV , NRSV , NKJV ), perverts ( NIV , NEB, REB ), practicing homosexuals (NAB), homosexual ( NJB ), (1Ti 1:10+), note: translations possibly use certain specific terms to infer or allow certain theologies Swanson, J. (1997).Dictionary of Biblical Languages with Semantic Dom...

Why Freedom2b is wrong on Homosexuality

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The Bible says nothing specifically about the homosexual condition (despite the rather misleading RSV translation of 1 Cor. 6:9), but its condemnations of homosexual conduct are explicit. The scope of these strictures must, however, be carefully determined. Too often they have been used as tools of a homophobic polemic which has claimed too much. The exegesis of the Sodom and Gibeah stories (Gn. 19:1–25; Jdg. 19:13–20:48) is a good case in point. We must resist D. S. Bailey’s widely-quoted claim (quoted by Freedom2B, Metropolitan Community Church and others)  that the sin God punished on these occasions was a breach of hospitality etiquette without sexual overtones (it fails to explain adequately both the double usage of the word ‘know’ (yāḏa‘) and the reason behind the substitutionary offer of Lot’s daughters and the Levite’s concubine); but neither account amounts to a wholesale condemnation of all homosexual acts. On both occasions the sin condemned was attempted homosexual r...

How Do Evangelical Churches Talk About Homosexuality?

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Jeff Chu describes himself as gay, partnered, relatively politically conservative, and a member of a relatively liberal New York City congregation in a relatively conservative denomination ( Reformed Church in America ). He is far from his Southern Baptist upbringing but, once in a while, finds himself wondering "whether my homosexuality is my ticket to hell, whether Jesus would love me but for that, and how good a Christian could I be if I struggle to believe that God loves me at all."  For Chu, and for many Christians of all sexual orientations, homosexuality is a "spiritual wedge issue," one of those topics or teachings that "gnaw at us and what faith we may have left." In fact many would claim, not only is he not saved, but completely deceived, but seeking to appear righteous, like the Pharisees. Chu is also a journalist, and the author of Does Jesus Really Love Me? A Gay Christian's Pilgrimage in Search of God in America (Harper Collins). The...